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dabeishere March 4, 2021 3:02 pm

Different Countries, Different Standards. Please learn that. Just because Ryou is a high school fresh graduate, doesn't mean he's considered a kid. In Asian countries(more often than not), after you graduate high school (often times at age 18) you're already considered as an adult. You are expected to be a part of the society, You're considered to provide for yourself. You are free to make decisions, be punished by your crimes, and even get married. Speaking as an Asian born from parents with a 13-year gap, it's fine. They are both adults and can think upon them selves. They both consented into their relationships. Don't push your ideals, morals, and ethics amongst ours.

Saw a comment said "it's the pedophilia for me" and I would just like to say WTF. You westerners just throw the word pedophilia a lot and is making the definition of it promiscuous and erasing it. Pedophilia is being attracted to kids and teens alike (generally 13 and below/ or any of the age below the legal age of the country concerned).

And if y'all westerners can't still understand. THIS IS FICTION, THIS ISN'T REAL, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PRAY HOW MAY RICE YOU EAT AND WHOEVER THE FUCK YOU WORSHIP, THIS SHIT WILL NOT BE REAL. IF Y'ALL WANNA BE LIKE THAT THEN COMMENT SOMETHING ON THE "CALL ME BY YOUR NAME" COUPLE COZ THE COUPLE THEIR WAS 17 AND 24 AND THAT ONE IS DEFINITELY PEDOPHILIA IN YOUR STANDARDS BUT Y'ALL CALL IT ~A R T~ BECAUSE IT CONCERNS YOUR IMAGE

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    coco March 4, 2021 3:09 pm

    facts, pop off

    dabeishere March 4, 2021 3:14 pm

    lemme add something and emphasize some things.

    A. it was consensual, the are both in the same boat, they have the same mindset. No one is deceiving anyone.

    B. Don't give me that "but studies shows that kids 18 and below doesn't have a matured mindset". Man fuck that, that was a Western Research, not catered for everyone, I mean yes you could use those as a basis, but it surely will not apply to everyone in the world

    C. I wish we're all on the same in here but NON OF US ASIANS SUPPORT PEDOPHILA just because japan's age of consent is 13, doesnt mean we all approve of that. We see what is wrong with that.

    D. As per rule of thumb (How parents see their child, how society see their child, and how the the person concerned see's themselves) 18 is an adult in many asian countries. If that doesn't fit your country's standard the so be it. BUT don't push it unto us becoz that's what we call "colonization" and us asians have had enough of that.

    Cleanfreakish March 4, 2021 3:26 pm

    Ok I do admit I kinda felt uncomfortable but I haven't really decided it was totally Pedophila- well kind of but YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT US WESTERNS, WE'RE KINDA OF JUST REALLY SENSITIVE ABOUT THINGS

    dabeishere March 4, 2021 3:31 pm
    Ok I do admit I kinda felt uncomfortable but I haven't really decided it was totally Pedophila- well kind of but YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT US WESTERNS, WE'RE KINDA OF JUST REALLY SENSITIVE ABOUT THINGS Cleanfreakish

    Thank you for noticing that about yourselves. and if it made you uncomfortable thats fine, you didn't push it unto us (which, judging from the comments I've seen from this, al
    lot of them have been doing it) and that is very refreshing to see. so thank you

    Glc0313 March 4, 2021 3:31 pm

    Tell em Queen

    ciago March 4, 2021 3:58 pm

    All the damn languages in the world and this man chose to speak facts.

    But Japan's age of consent is not actually 13 btw.

    Westerners can be so idiotic sometimes. They're both consenting adults. It's perfectly fine to be uncomfortable with an age-gap because it's not something many are used to. But to call it pedophilia or call the younger one a gold digger is so unnecessary and rude. And yes, this is fiction at the end of the day. No need to tighten your asshole over it.

    dabeishere March 4, 2021 4:09 pm
    All the damn languages in the world and this man chose to speak facts.But Japan's age of consent is not actually 13 btw.Westerners can be so idiotic sometimes. They're both consenting adults. It's perfectly fin... ciago

    wait was it the consent age changed. didn't know that tbh(imma edit or add to my previous comment). and yep, it's mostly them who can't distinguish fiction and reality.

    dabeishere March 4, 2021 4:17 pm
    lemme add something and emphasize some things.A. it was consensual, the are both in the same boat, they have the same mindset. No one is deceiving anyone.B. Don't give me that "but studies shows that kids 18 an... dabeishere

    just to correct myself and clarify some things.

    Japans age of consent is 13 (in tokyo). However, many prefectures also have local "corruption of minors" or "obscenity statutes" (淫行条例) which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18, unless they are in a "sincere romantic relationship", usually determined by parental consent. ( Age of Consent, 2020).
    credit : Age of Consent, 2020. "Japan Age Of Consent and Statutory Rape Laws" <just google the link im tired to do an APA style reference>

    Also, the adult amongst the party (eg 20 years old) needs to have the parental consent of their partner (which should be at least 16).


    so yeah Ryou in this manga is considered an adult and doesn't need a parental consent because he is considered a full pledged adult already

    ElisaFlo March 4, 2021 4:28 pm

    I'm form Belgium, a western country :D
    I really do not see this as pedophilia. This is also a work of fiction, like you say. Some people make a real drama about it (drama lama's), it's just fiction. I respect the opinion of others, everyone has the right to their own opinion.
    But if you have problems with the age gap, just don't read it and don't give such negative comments. There are people who like this (like me!).
    I think it's super sweet he waited until he graduated :D

    Some facts: here in Belgium the age of consent is 16 year.
    Between 14 and 16 years you officially can only have sex if your partner is maximum 5 years older then you.
    Under the 14 years it is considered als 'rape', even if you both gave permission.

    butipromiseihavehappypaws March 4, 2021 4:58 pm
    lemme add something and emphasize some things.A. it was consensual, the are both in the same boat, they have the same mindset. No one is deceiving anyone.B. Don't give me that "but studies shows that kids 18 an... dabeishere

    Yeah I mean only your point A is what I’m thinking of. It was consensual, although I don’t remember much of the story before that, but when the seme expressed his feelings from what I remember, he was making it clear that there’s a difference between what the uke has been thinking and his real feelings for him, so there’s no deception or grooming. The uke was thinking in terms of the seme’s and his own real feelings.

    Jilliane™♪ March 4, 2021 5:21 pm

    Yup y'all know vic sotto and his wife? Pauleen? Correct her name if I'm wrong...Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

    vibes March 5, 2021 3:08 am

    i mean you're considered an adult 18 in the USA too. there are literally thousands of pornsites dedicated to pegging newly 18-year-old girls...millions of videos. it's not pedophilia under any circumstance. if it were then those videos couldn't exist.