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So in this chapter, Wilhelm went to aid Luden in the battle against the monsters, taking Billoi with him and saving Rein and Bianca as seen. Per last chapter, he is totally using this to get close to Rein, he literally just said that he's going to use Billoi as a hostage. He's just told Rein that Billoi will be in her care for a week. I suspect he will give her time to get bonded with Billoi and then use him to put himself in the equation.

Rein, meeting Wilhelm again for the first time in 5 years, is glad to notice that he looks at her coldly now (more of her falling for his act, I guess he's playing hard to get), but also feels bad that he seems so broken. She never fell out of love with him, that was just never part of the story. She feels bad for him because she still loves him, clearly. The story is and has been that she fell in love with him before the betrayal and now those two feelings coexist within her. She's disgusted by him and wants him gone from her life (the predominant feeling), but she also loves him deep down. That's why she's acting how she is in this chapter towards him. She sees that to others he may seem okay, but she can tell that he is different to how he was and feels bad that he looks so broken to her.

Rein reunited with Billoi and decided to make amends, accepting him and deciding to give him her love now. Bianca doesn't seem too happy to have a brother, we'll see if that actually goes somewhere or if it's just a tease of drama before it becomes nothing.

Rein dropped off Billoi as ordered to by the imperial family. Wilhelm refused to let her leave and ended up doing more manipulation shit about a promise they made when she was still being fooled by him. He made his wish to have his way with her for 3 days while she lay there like a corpse devoid of emotion at the rape and she left afterwards. Now we're at 5 years later, in the meantime Wilhelm has neglected Billoi the entire time and now we see Rein has a daughter that is obviously Wilhelm's... Again... She seems to have had no problems bonding with this one since it isn't male and doesn't look like a carbon copy of it's father

She has, once again, chosen not to blame the child for it's father's mistakes and decided to give birth to it despite the rape circumstances. This is 2 for 2 now

Okay, so she chose to birth yet another rape child, this time being straight-up rape and not retroactive rape after realizing she's pregnant with a man that had tried to kill her childhood friend and crush and had been lying to her and manipulating her the whole time. Are y'all still going to act like she is a heartless bitch? All these people being like "she abandoned her son" when she chose to give birth to him because she didn't want to blame him for the father's actions, took care of him as long as she could, never abused him and then handed him off to her closest friend when her trauma wouldn't let her be around him anymore, only to be ordered to give him up by the imperial family. Here she is AGAIN, not allowing what Wilhelm did to her make her choose abortion because the child is innocent despite the father

Meanwhile Wilhelm has already and continues to give away how he really is. A psychotic manipulator that will stoop to any low to get her, even sacrificing her own happiness by trying to kill someone she's close to and watching her struggle through that for years as he plays the role of pillar of support through all he's put her through

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He just doesn't realize his feelings yet, don't hate him too much. He's not even able to be with other people at this point... He'll catch on. And with how casual the omega is, looks like he might have to pursue him for something more serious eventually

So firstly, I wouldn't say the FL is "weak", it's more like she's powerless. She's a very strong person that has endured a hell-like life for the sake of her sister. She's been abused physically and verbally since she was a child and because she's pretty she's always had men lusting after her and people assuming that she's a whore and uses her looks to get things. Since she's a "noble" (in name only), pretty much everyone around her assumes she's a sheltered princess, which couldn't be further from the truth. The entire story is just *riddled* with people assuming things about her.

People in the comments seem pissed off that she used the ML, but she had no choice. It was that or marry an old man under threat that if she didn't, her sister would have to. Her real plan was to have the ML take her virginity so that her betrothed would get pissed and call off the engagement. She knew her step-sister wanted to marry her off for the connection, she wanted to get revenge on her family by ruining that connection. She wanted to run away from the situation so bad that for a second she panicked and ran to the ML and asked him to take her away. She didn't know his feelings and was surprised when he very quickly kissed her and made his feelings known. He told her he can't take her away, but that he would kill her betrothed. She didn't take him seriously. She assumed he wouldn't be able to, she was just planning to get caught during her wedding night no longer being a virgin and getting revenge when all the sudden her betrothed and his son are dead.

So she used him to take her virginity and he jumped at the thought that she loved him. Which she did and does, but he didn't realize that she didn't *just* use him, it was also exactly how he thought. She tried to explain that she can't leave because of her sister, but he left her there feeling betrayed by her thinking she *just* used him. He still doesn't know how she feels and now someone is trying to force her to make him fall out of love with her so there's more to misunderstand now in how she's acting.

This really isn't funny anymore, y'all just aren't reading...

He has imperial blood, the ruling family ordered her to bring him. The father is using the son to get Rein to him...

Rein:

- Regressed and, in canon, immediately had all her memories right away. Her consciousness just gets sent into her younger self, regression.

- Accidentally ran into Wilhelm at a younger age when a man tried to rape her and he "just happened" to be there. She recognized him from her last life as her shitty husband's mad dog that listened to any order that was given to him and carried it out without a single bit of hesitation.

- Took young Wilhelm in to use him for her plans, because if he grew up and followed his original timeline he'd be a force to be reckoned with on her ex husband's side. The one she plans to get revenge on.

- With the mindset of using him, still genuinely cared for him since he's a child and treated him as a mother would a son. Not seeing him as a romantic interest in the slightest, actually being in love with Dietrich, a main point of contention for Wilhelm in his new role at her side. At this point it looks like he's *fallen* in love with her, but this is before the reveal that he's actually a regressor that was already obsessed with her (literally worships her as his master and goddess. Literally).

- Has Dietrich teach him to be a knight (a noble profession in a medieval setting) so he can fight battles for her as he did for her husband in his past life. He seems to have no issue with this until he notices that she is not looking at him as a possible romantic partner, since she raised him. Then suddenly he wants to bring it up to her, only after being caught manipulating (he killed Dietrich intentionally) to be like "well you used me" so she feels bad for him.

- Gives both Wilhelm and Dietrich a cloth, Wilhelm hates this and kills him to take it and because he needed him out of the picture so he could be her lover.

- Asks Wilhelm about Dietrich's belongings and is lied to that there were none found.

- Continues on with her plan to have him wage war while grieving Dietrich, but unable to stop her plan now to grieve as it was a crucial time. During this time, Wilhelm works on changing her image of him from "boy I raised" to a possible romance option by flirting, playing the part of a cute puppy lover to her and "being there for her" in her grief over Dietrich even though he caused it and knew that while doing this the whole time.

- Thinking Dietrich is dead, after much deliberation on how she feels for Wilhelm since up till now and his flirting she has never looked at him as a romantic option, gives in to his wants and demands to change the nature of their relationship. She determines it's weird and she's not into it, but will literally throw that to the curb for the sake of her goal of revenge. Now their relationship is more romantic as he wanted.

- Is hinted to by Wilhelm that he's a regressor too, she's just confused about this till after the crown prince dies.

- Basically waits around until he kills her ex for her. She doesnt like that he took it into his own hands, but deals with it and finally truly feels love for Wilhelm in her heart (not just putting up with the discomfort as she had chosen to do earlier) and they have sex, getting her pregnant. Has the talk about regression with him, he lies saying that he had no memories until after the battle Dietrich died in.

- Truly enjoys life with Wilhelm for a bit there, but then we're foreshadowed that someone knows something Wilhelm was lying about. He looks at her with his trademark "my true nature" crazy eyes to keep her fucking mouth shut or he'll kill her. Rein gets suspicious anyways because of what she heard, but puts it to the side for a bit.

- More enjoying life until she sees the cloth on his sword that he himself had told her to her face wasn't there. Finally she has no choice but to acknowledge literal reality as it is in her face. She confronts him with that he intentionally tried to kill Dietrich and he lies to get out of this by trying to reframe things. He said that he didn't remember his past life until it was too late and Dietrich had already died. He also lies saying that he hid the cloth because he didn't want to make her sad and claims that he cared about Dietrich too, with crocodile tears in his eyes.

- Meets with one of the people who were there with Dietrich and Wilhelm at the battle who tells Rein how "impressive" Wilhelm was in the battle, taking charge and leading the men with such precision that it was to the point that it was like he knew what was going to happen. This reveals the first part of his lie: he remembered at the time of death. She leaves him, deciding to break up, but still believing the second part of his lie that he at least cared for Dietrich at one point.

- Reunites with Dietrich, who meets with Wilhelm for her. She decides to watch the encounter because of what he'd said about caring about Dietrich. Upon seeing him, she noticed that his *very* first reaction on seeing him, no provocation yet, is to exclaim and put his hand on his sword. He doesn't know Dietrich is alive and if what he said to her is true, the context here is supposedly that his loved friend has come back from the grave. Hence it all being a lie, the suspicions she had earlier that he knowingly did it being confirmed.

- Decides to have his baby, despite how completely and utterly disgusted she is with what he did to her, because she doesn't feel it would be fair to the baby. So it's basically a rape child at this point. Tries to take care of it at first, but gradually falls more and more into post partum as it starts to look more and more like the guy she despises (and still loves, which makes it worse because it's just constant feeling of betrayal. His plan worked, she really did fall in love with him).

- She eventually leaves him to Dietrich to raise as she can't handle it anymore to take care of him.

- Flash forward some years and now she's dropping the child off with his father as she birthed him and did all she could for as long as she could under the circumstances and now his toxic psychopath father is using him to try and get in contact again. Ever the manipulator. He heard the child looks like him and jumped right on that when using her *father's sword* (huge detail, the sword has always been important to her) failed. At this point he hits her with the "I didn't kill him! He's alive! He came here with you!", which much to my disappointment was actually taken as a valid argument in the comments section... Of course that's a completely stupid argument, since he didn't intend for Dietrich to live. The issue being the psychotic manipulation, which persists whether Dietrich lived or not. Rein still grieved for him for years. She had to live in a world without him, that was her reality and Wilhelm benefited from that all according to his plan. Unfortunately he was discovered after obtaining everything he wanted, her heart.

He has his entire life turned sideways and he just... Takes it all in stride. He ends up in a hotel room with a guy, as a straight man, and not only has sex the one time, but also when they wake up and even honestly admits he wants to keep doing it. He immediately wonders if they're dating now, decides they must be and reacts with that in mind when told that he'd probably have no issue having sex with other guys now. He just starts dating him with no drawn out concerns or drama. Then when it becomes public he just lets himself be outed and rolls with it, worrying more about his bf than people's opinions and ends up publicly dating him with even his work friends knowing!

He even accepted the confession in front of everyone at work lol

Is the abuse revealed later? She just said he's never been hurt and her inner thoughts seem to confirm that. It looks like she took care of him as long as she could, but over time couldn't handle how much he was like his father growing up and then Dietrich stepped in to take care of him.

I'm still on board with MC getting her revenge now that I've seen he hasn't changed like it was making it seem up till now. But I kinda just think MC is a horrible person. She's basically a serial killer villainess that regressed. It makes you think you're going to root for her at first and then you see that in reality she does anything for her goal, including killing decent people. Jeremi and Emiliana actually made me pretty upset, they were good people and Emiliana regressed to save him. I want her to get her revenge of Kleio, but I also ended up wanting some good ending for those two, even if it wasn't Jeremi becoming emperor. ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

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Gotta say, ch 19 has to be like the worst place for the translations to end off on. Hopefully we get more soon. He was finally going to be given the stern reason he needs to get over his crush since he's getting married now. Now hopefully he can move on and devote all his time to the seme. He loves him already anyways... He's just emotionally constipated and a little hung up on his crush to realize it, but he's already thinking of them equally in his head. Like "which one is making me feel this way?" and "how can you both just be chatting it up right now?". It's both of them that are making his heart go off. He's also putting the seme on a pedestal and always thinking about how he's too good for him. Clearly the issue isn't attraction

I think this is more gray than people are acknowledging. Like, with that being a part of the story even...

It's not like he just raped her on their first night, he had just set up a deal between them that she agreed to that he would try to get her pregnant within a month. Sure, she wasn't expecting the sex right there and then and she takes issue with that he was rough, wording it as that he did whatever he wanted, but to say she didn't consent to the sex seems off. It was within her own interest and she did agree to the deal. She doesn't even know yet why he treated her like that the first time. I mean, WE know that in his head he was being an asshole for personal reasons, but she just looks back on it and goes "?" right now. She just said that. She's noted the change in his behavior since literally the next day, since he realized she was a virgin.

I think it's important that he's realized he did wrong, is actually looking at her now and is trying to do right. And that matters because it's explicitly a part of the story that she does not hate him for anything he's done. She just said that. She's not feeling raped, he just irritated her that night. It's not part of the story that she feels raped, it's just not. I'm sure he's going to face some backlash in a bit though, because she was just thinking about why he was acting like that at first and contemplated that it might be because of the rumors. So I see it maybe being a hurdle in a second where he has to make up for it. Not for the "rape", but for the fact that he believed the rumors for a time.

I keep seeing so much sympathy for Wilhelm and what none of you realize is that you're falling for the same shit she did. His tragic past is real, don't get me wrong, but he knowingly weaponized it to get Reinhardt to feel sympathy and trust for him. He has reasons, but his approach in everything is to manipulate/distort the truth. To keep her blind to the things he's doing to keep her close. Yes, you could say he "loves her" and I'm sure that's what he thinks as well, but seeing everything as an ominiscisent reader, it's kinda hard not to see it as obsession. He literally views her as his goddess and reason for living. He attempted to kill Dietrich because he was an obstacle in her looking at him as a prospective partner. Despite knowing how much Dietrich meant to her and despite seeing how much it broke her. Some of you are forgetting his reaction when Dietrich was announced "dead". She ran past him in hysterics and he got *mad*... He was upset that she was paying attention to Dietrich's death instead of himself... It upset him that she wouldn't pay attention to him since he had done what she told him to. This guy has had Dietrich's cloth that she gave him since then, all while playing innocent by her side. Because he couldn't stand that Dietrich had her cloth. She just confirmed that he felt nothing for Dietrich, he found out he's still alive and drew his blade at him... Despite how well Dietrich took care of him.

Listen. Wilhelm's real character is one who will do any horrible, inhumane thing without even blinking an eye to get what he wants. Sure, his past probably brought him there, but it doesn't change that in practice, he acts like a monster. He is willing to break Reinhardt to have her. Not just willing, he did it and then played the pillar of support for her through what he was putting her through. If you guys think it's okay for him to have tried to kill her childhood friend and crush to be next to her, then you're falling for the facade he is actively using. He's trying to come across innocent/victimized so that you and Rein will be looking at all that stuff he suffered through while he schemes in the background. Those moments where he gets crazy eyes at people? That's who he really is. He's insane and will literally just cold blooded kill people to get what he wants. He has the predatory nature/thought process of a serial killer.

Rein knows how he is now because he screwed up and got caught in all his background shit. She is now looking at the real Wilhelm and is saying "holy shit. No thanks" because she herself is part of the collateral damage in obtaining her. Which honestly is probably the right choice, even if he would treat her well if she chose him. Y'all only think of that, but here pretty soon we'll see how he treats her in the face of rejection. Do you think he won't be willing to harm her to have her? He already has. He's going nuts already just from her returning to Luden... Won't surprise me if he kidnaps her.

As far as the spoilers, I'll wait and see. The dream just now does show that she had no intention of abusing the child. I think you're all forgetting that in her right mind, she's a great person, but she has a lot of mental health issues and now she's pregnant. Post partum depression is a hell of a thing. Even if it's *not* that, we see that he just had her freak out and faint by trying to manipulate her with her mother's jewels. Him bringing them was on purpose, there was an emphasis put on him telling them to pack them up. In the state he was in, it looks like it was to manipulate her. He didn't look like he had good intentions. He looks like he's going crazy. If that wasn't clear right off the bar, it was made clear when even after finding out Dietrich was alive, so coming face to face with his own machinations, he still chose to leave those gems for her to see. It's like, "oh really? You were just innocently leaving a loving gift for her while you were looking crazy AF in the palace and then after drawing a sword on Dietrich"? But it's always presented as a what-if. Like maybe he really did care about Dietrich (his excuse to Rein) or maybe he really was trying to get that back for her (though really he knows it's important to her and how he is makes him take advantage of that)

To be clear, it's an explicit rape fantasy plot with the ML (?) being sexually dominated explicitly against his will for at least a year already so far. He was an enemy general that lost the war and was gifted to the FL, who seems to be devoid of emotion with a habit of cruelly harming and dominating those around her. The story seems to try to play both sides, giving her a sob story background and trying to occasionally make him look kinda smug back when he wasn't a sex slave. He's a virgin, so of course that's an intentional fetish play here. Him discovering sex through his imprisonment and struggling with the pleasure he feels is something they emphasize. It's even starting to make him doubt himself in the recent chapters where he's wondering if maybe he was already into stuff like this since he always loses his mind to the pleasure and stops resisting/starts asking her for more

I'm wondering if anyone knows if the roles are reversed eventually or if the entire story is going to be focused on him in imprisonment? Does he get any sort of revenge or does he "fall in love" and then they get together?

Glasses confessed to him when he was a minor and he just told him to ask again when he's an adult, but in a way that didn't look like he was opposed to a relationship with him. He also says "you want me to say no? How could I? You guys weren't scared of me". So he's okay with them wanting him because they're special to him. Then when glasses is fingering him and he cums, he says "I thought it would be your first time, but I guess it's not?". So Ahjussi is gay? He does also immediately get into it and starts to suck red head's dick while he's being fucked in the ass. He's caught off guard, but not against it.

It looks like he was into them already?

So... From what I understand, Alicia thinks that there is a predetermined fate that everything was supposed to follow? But Ophelia doesn't seem to know what she's talking about? She had no idea what Alicia meant when Alicia said that Ophelia should be betrothed to Nicholas. She also had no recollection of "Ophelia's night". But she saw a future where Alicia died in a dream, two years of it. She also somehow divined Tantaros and it's location from that dream? She asked Alicia if the goddess had appeared to her too, so it's making me think that they both saw visions of that predetermined path, but differing ones since Alicia doesn't know what Ophelia's motivations or what the images she saw are and Ophelia said that Alicia isn't supposed to know that her power is keeping her alive.

It's still a mystery as to why she turned away there when Alicia's family was killed, right? Or did I miss something? I feel like I blinked and missed the whole attack part of the story. I just know Nix appeared and Ophelia wanted to help him despite Alicia's weird feeling about him, leading to the death of Alicia's family and all her hardship. I'm not sure where Nicholas gets off targeting Alicia as he has been if he understands why Ophelia is doing what she is. I guess he hates her because he loves Ophelia and she's badmouthing Ophelia? Even though she was just keeping up appearances when she put up the wanted poster/bounty and called Ophelia a whore in front of that noble lady? Does he think Ophelia has done enough to make up for what happened? I'm guessing there is some missing information we don't know yet. Right now he makes no sense. But if there is it makes me wonder why he hasn't said anything to Alicia to clear Ophelia's name instead of being passive aggressive like he has.

It's a typical regressor story where the FL didn't do well in her first life and died a terrible death because of the schemes of the antagonist, the queen. In this life she vows to get revenge on the queen and prevent the deaths of both her husband (the should-be crown prince) and her best friend.

Her husband is the heir to the throne, but his life is a living hell with the queen constantly getting in his way and abusing him at every turn. He was there for the FL at her worst time and now she wants to return the favor by helping him and making him king. The queen wants her son to be king and the current king is bedridden in a coma.

The FL's plan to get rid of Helen was honestly really badass and I like her calculative mind, it was funny/cool when she pissed off the queen on purpose as soon as she got there to get some attention off her husband and onto herself to protect him. I also liked how she handled her brother, though I hope she gets revenge on him eventually too.

The story has already made it clear that there's more to things than we are privy to at the moment. He's already said that he hated her "at first" and we saw that he was so on edge about... Something... That even while having sex he was actively watching out for threats

We also know that the saintess trapped him on earth the first time around, he mentioned that he would come to realize that only she could open dimensional portals, which to me screams that she refused to let him go home and then he got caught in the tedious societal structure he mentioned

At the end she said the video call was too fast so she didn't really hear or see anything, but she clearly heard stuff before that and asked "what are the two of you doing?" as he panicked and kept trying to get her to hang up

Was her saying that supposed to be a confirmation that she doesn't know or was it supposed to mean she's in on it and is complaining she didn't get to see because the call was too sudden? He tells her to let him sleep.