To reduce two individuals to their sexual positions, being focused on 'seme' 'uke' when only one SINGLE chapter is out is the most ridiculous and frankly, creepy thing I have seen in a while.
Ukes are often seen as women-adjacent, women identify with them while reading and BL relationships become exactly like heterosexual relationships with the uke being delegated to the role of a 'girl' as they are on the receiving end sexually. They get second male leads who want them, while the seme is generally possessive and obsessed.
People need to understand- They are both men. Period.
Over identifying with the uke cuz you see them in the girl's position is so weird. People would not hate on this webtoon of if the uke wasn't yandere and too 'manly'. Why? Can only semes be yandere? Are they both not men? If you're not used to such reversals atleast try to broaden your mind by reading stuff that makes you a little uncomfortable. Don't get used to the way things are. Everyone has preferences and that's okay. If you don't like it don't read. Simple. Drop it instead of leaving bad ratings and bad comments. That is so immature, reminding me how much of the population here are younger people who should not be reading smut in the first place.
This author wrote define the relationship which is one of the best webtoons imo. They write good, heartfelt stories and of you can't appreciate them stop leaving bad ratings and comments cuz again that's so petty and immature. All webtoons cannot cater to your individual preferences. Fiction has variety, do you really want to whine about that?
P. S. I wrote more than I expected.
To be fair a lot a people reading yaoi are just girls with fetishes so I don't think you should expect much here. I gave up when people were defending jjk from jinx
You do realize your argument is pretty stupid because a lot of men also read toxic BL, right?
The fetish cliche is just old at this point. the fetish allegations were started by homophobes who were mad that some women were reading it, and women were the ones reading it not because no man liked it, but because society tolerated it only when it was women reading it.
Reading yaoi has nothing to do with fetishes most of the time and it's ridiculous to use that stupid allegation to appear woke.
It is weird that some people don't like "role switching" or whatever but usually it stems from a place of not liking to change their habits, and liking boxes etc. It extends to other parts of their life and usually they grow out of it.
I grew out of it with time and experience, it had nothing to do with fetishes. So sometimes when you don't know something it's better to shut up.
Oh and you're mixing things up, first of all your ass had no business reading jinx because it's a toxic BL and you werent the target audience, I bet you are one of those BJ Alex readers that have no business reading it and still insist to read it just to cry about it because you like being a parasite.
I'd rather see people say they're dropping something for whatever reason than having dumbasses like you who stick around things they don't like to annoy the population.
And for OP: clearly you seem to just be replying to a minority of comments probably posted by younger readers.
You made it way deeper than it actually is or needs to be. A big part of BL is inspired by heterosexual gender roles and dynamics, even gay relationships were for quite some time.
The idea of changing roles etc is actually pretty recent not only in gay relationships but also in homoromance. So a LOT of BL, if not a majority, still has seme-uke dynamics inspired from heterosexual dynamics.
However people are "against it" out of habbit and it's truly not that deep. They will grow out of it as they keep seeing it. It also happened with alpha x alpha stories. It's truly not that deep.
At least they announce their departure and leave, unlike the moral police who likes to stick around toxic BL and annoy everyone. So I don't see how them actually leaving bothers you.
Also you may want to lower your expectations. Just because you've read one single story from that author doesn't mean they are going to keep that direction forever.
'cause we had the same problem with the mother fuckers who thought Jinx was just going to be as soft as BJ Alex.
This story might actually get incredibly toxic, especially since I'm seeing chains and obsessions and stuff, they might just have a fight and have the uke rape the seme. You don't know so better just lower your expectations.
Hey asshole. I am aware that it's not only girls that read and watch BLS. I checked out jinx bc. BJ Alex was ok and I wanted to see if the author would write a story thats not as shit as jinx. Idk why your feelings were hurt so much by my reply maybe you're projecting? But anyways. You do not know me and I've since dropped jinx and only occasional check on it to see what's going on. And I also didn't fucking say I was dropping this one you are the dumbass jumping to conclusions and blocking people bc you probs can't handle replies. (づ￣ ³￣)づ I hope you have day as shitty as your personality
And also judging by your reads you just like toxic shit so maybe that's why you were whining about me not liking jinx
If you only read yaoi and don't engage with other lgbtq content such as yuri then it definitely is a fetish. Women consume yaoi because of only one reason...they're attracted to men and in yaoi there are two (or more) men making out. It's the same with men consuming yuri content. Yaoi was literally created to be targeted towards straight women (creepy af). That IS fetishism. No matter what you say you can't run away from the reality.
... tf is you saying? I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to know the seme and uke while reading a YAOI SMUT manhwa bro, so quit writing a whole ass chapter critiquing people like u r a righteous person, it's not bad to wanna know who's what so just stf down
Lmao why are u so triggered? If the shoe fits ig.
I wasn't talking about seme and uke. Although it ks strange that a homosexual relationship is follpwing a very heteronormative narrative. And a vast majority of yapi manhwas follows such themes, once again proving that it's target audience is female.
Learn the definition of the words you use. I only read yaoi because I have no interest in Yuri just like I don't have an interest in straight stories.
And you can't just assume that someone is attracted to two men making out that's just weird on your part. Some lgbt people only read straight shit we don't call that fetishism. I know straight girls who only read Yuri that isn't fetishism.
Your assumption is especially ridiculous and baseless when you remember that straight romance, bl or wl web toons and mangas all have their own archetypes and subgenres that don't necessarily exist in the other forms of romances. Someone can just like the archetypes and subgenres in yaoi for example and therefore only read that. It doesn't mean they fetishize it.
Using big words for things that aren't actually that deep simply takes away all credibility from you it doesn't make you look smart or woke. There are some people who do fetishize, but those are a minority of people and usually very young.
There's much more to yaoi and Yuri than the homoromance in itself, which is why they are individual genres and not just romance. So please spare us your chronically online reality.
I try my best to use their names when talking about them, if i dont remember ill just say like :the blonde. Its too sad to talk using uke or seme.
Bro wtf are u saying. How say that you don't know shit without saying you don't know shit. The reason why I read bl is bc I can't put myself into the leads positions. Like you don't know how many aroace or ace people I know that readbbl. For. that same reason.
I don't get it... The seme has to be faithful in this life and next and next while uke gets a second top. Why do authors give this special treatment to uke characters simply because they are on the receiving end sexually. It feels uncomfortable like they're treating them as the woman in the relationship. Unfaithful tops are unacceptable but ukes are fine cuz they treat them as woman adjacent this identifying with them more.
P. S. Any suggestions where they subvert this trope, as in the seme gets a main uke and a second uke?
What... taekyung is not obligated to be faithful to heeseo coz they're not even in a relationship, top just forced his feelings onto btm and just expected him to comply
But I do agree that btm randomly getting with his step bro is weird
What he did not get with his step brother !
Nah not the people hating on seme as if you wouldn't feel hurt by such a thing. It's a pretty realistic situation but people are saying uke has "trauma". Do you know trauma is a serious word? The uke has issues stemming from past relationships but who doesn't. And I like the uke, this is one of my favorite authors. He just needs to apologize properly, why is the seme supposed to let it go immediately?
I thought this was a serious author, didn't think she was going to add one of those disgusting assault scenes that plague webtoons. Lesson learned, no need to form a good image of the author till the webtoon is complete.
This is a serious author sure all those other moments where main characters were raped in those other stories could have been way off the plot and stupid but it makes sense for this because the guy was crazy in love with him from literally like the first few episodes and now you also have them having discord with them so it makes sense that there is a high chance of them raping him sure it's not something that you want nor something that you want to see but it's a real thing although yes I do wish that this isn't the route that the author went for I kind of wish that silas stopped them beforehand but nothing we can do besides hope Silas ruins their life
I mean yeah but she isn't romanticizing it so where is the problem
Responding to the two people above - why did the SA have to be shown on screen so blatantly? The point could’ve been gotten across without explicitly showing what happened to Arthur. Showing everything on screen blatantly with this presentation is fetishising the assault whether you like it or not.
A serious author who cares about sexual assault and rape would know to cut away in these moments. Show us Arthur’s internal dialogue, we can even see snippets of what the men are saying to him, but don’t actually show what is being done to him. This retains his dignity as a victim, still shows us the horror he’s feeling and doesn’t risk humanising the assaulters (we did not need to know how fast they came or how attractive they find him).
Plus, it would be so easy for the men who did this to say to the police that Arthur came so surely it wasn’t assault (which is a thing a rapist would say despite an orgasm obviously not being consent) etc. That way the author can show how vile these men are without showing it all on screen. You don’t lose any impact by not showing it is what I’m saying.
As viewers, we are viewing Arthur through the gaze of his assaulters rather than through his own eyes. It’s a dehumanising lens to see him through and is not the way you should be portraying victims of rape and/or sexual assault if you are trying to take the topic seriously
That's the point, it's supposed to be a traumatizing event for us the viewers not just him. The point of the rape scene was to provoke us to be angry and also feel for him God you're stupid
I’m gonna assume you’re a kid. You don’t need to be shown all this stuff so explicitly to know it’s traumatising and feel the trauma- it is NOT needed.
How does he not have hair down there?
People shave, wax, and others even have genetics to where they don't grow hair, or even have too much hair.
Some people have back hair but a smooth ass, some have hairy cracks but are smooth everywhere else, some only grow head hair, some grow hair everywhere except their head.
Humans are vast.
Agreed but let's face it, in webtoons authors just don't wanna add pubic hair, which is also extremely common and normal to have.
True.
I last shaved mine on valentines day.
Lowkey wanna grow it so long that I can braid it, then cut it off and donate my pubes to all the hairless characters.
But, there's also the potential because of how rare it is to find a hairless Asian in porn, so they live out their hair-free genitalia fabtasy in their art works.
I swear, some of my bros got more pubes than dick.
She's back! My favorite author is finally back!
What other stories has she made? I’d like to read more!
My starry sky
This started out so good... And now I don't care anymore. I have no patience for the uke. Whatever.
I was getting so much shit a bit earlier when I said this. I can't agree more, this fell off bad
Boohoo.
Ppl are allowed to have opinions Karen, you don't have to be a bitch about it on every comment you make
Ikr, like typing shit under polite opinions is how they choose to spend their free time.
"Polite" I guess now means calling someone/something "boring" just 'cause you didn't have the attention span to keep reading a series that isn't just shoujo repainted with gay men lol
Boo. Hoo.
Talk about self contradicting, you must be trolling at this point like lmao hilarious bruh..
Every time there's an update I see the same old drama going on in the comments section like you'd think that after 48 chapters people who hate this would leave for something that interests them more
FACTS
Agreed. They pretend they don’t like it.They hate it so much but they read when new chapter update.
i like the drama but the characters are just so unlikeable (〜￣△￣)〜