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What is it about abuse and toxic relationships that people find sexy to read and watch? Why is it the number one utilized trope in most genres across the board, that continues to gather audiences from all ages and backgrounds?
I guess you haven’t been corrupted, yet.
Meh. Relationship? Hit and run is better.
Because readers find conflicts intriguing. We like seeing characters being challenged to overcome a situation (which may or may not be resolved). Most fiction is based on some element of conflict, all of which span every genres of manga:
man vs. man
man vs. self
man vs. society
man vs. supernatural
man vs. tech/machinery
We're all just there for the sex
Lmao
Honestly fluff is so boring. Like for 80 chapters all the uke and seme do is UWU each other, not even a fukin kiss. Blush here, Blush there…. UGHHHH So boring. I just want the Seme to pound the Uke so hard till he starts bleeding But Nope nope nope NOT in fluffy Mangas!!! That is the reason why I love hardcore and mangas with fuked up caracters.
I think in this case, the person is asking more why so many people gloss over toxicity and problematic relationships in vast majority of yaoi stories. A conflict/climax is needed in almost every story to keep interest flowing and have readers want to find out more. But in many cases of yaoi stories, the toxicity in the relationship is actually not even used as a conflict at all, in fact it always gets swept over as nothing, or a slight little "misunderstanding" between the two characters, when in reality it's HUGE problems such as non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse. These types of situations aren't regarded as "conflicts" in these stories, they always get glossed over as "it was just a moment of jealousy", or "it's cause of his tragic past". It gives young readers this idea that if a man does or has any of these toxic characteristics, it's actually because he "loves you", and that right there, is a big problem in society because men or women won't leave their toxic partner since there's the thought that "he/she is only doing this cause they love me".
Things like these shouldn't be overlooked, but the reality is that they almost always are, and authors and also readers almost always refuse to acknowledge in fact just how toxic the relationship actually is, because, like most comments above said, most people are only reading for the sex.
The love-hate trope differs from toxic/abusive relationships. The person is questioning why people overlook yaoi stories where relationships involve things like non-consensual sex, rape, verbal and/or physical abuse.
I love the hate-to-love trope, it's my personal favourite, but just because the two characters hate each other, doesn't excuse for non-consensual sex, or rape, there's absolutely no excuse that justifies any of those actions, but in vast majority of yaoi stories, that's exactly what happens, and the author and readers refuse to acknowledge how wrong those actions are, and it gets glossed over with a couple exhcnages of "I love yous".
Cause it’s yaoi. Lmfao. I
Lmfao, bleeding out on the sidewalk. So hot.
oof got me there my guy
I've said this before- it's a comic book, not a blueprint for real life. Characters/situations are overdramatised in an entertainment medium, so it's fine if readers cheer on the bad character of their choice. The Joker is cool, but a real life psychopath is not ok.
Yeah but the joker's character isn't painted to be this saint or portrayed as the correct form of morality, he's not a character that's glorifying psychopathy.
Toxicity or what you refer to as "entertainment" in yaoi is almost ALWAYS glorified or excused despite how wrong some of this stuff is.
I know rape is a fantasy many people have, especially women. Yaoi is able to give them that fantasy. I would argue that yaoi SHOULD not be read by young people. The ones that contain rape or abuse should be read by mature audiences.
In many cases, Joker is seen as a cool rebel hence why many want to be him (cosplay).
do you ever wish there was an option to block having to see a particular manga when you visit this site? Like god i remember that manga and hated it, let me just block it and never have to see it or its comments ever again.
Blood bank yes
not manga, some mangago users yes lol
One of those enemies to lovers plot that truly make zero sense as to why they would end up together. The ML is just homophobic and toxic for literally no reason decides to blame MC for something he had absolutely nothing to do with plus tarnish the reputation of the only person who was genuinely nice to him. And MC instead of saying fuck this I don’t want anything to do with this piece of shit and now forcibly interacting with this guy at his own detriment, because BL logic. Fucking stupid. The ML is also a fuckboy who likes to play mind games as shown in the Raws. Aren’t Korean authors exhausted by constantly churning out toxic narratives as their bread and butter.
Cry about it. It’s good lol
Nope lol. As long as it's trendy and pays the bills it's not going anywhere xD
True. I don't get it why uke is so determined to do the group project, while seme literally told him to hop on free ride. And then he got exhausted because the group project that he insisted on working was so hard to do. Why would he even work with someone who deliberately tarnished his name? When he was just trying to help
I’m stating an opinion based on the factual way this and many other BL Korean stories like it are written. And people are pressed about it if you bring up this is the standard not the exception. Pick a random BL this point, 8 out of 10 will be some stupid romanticized toxic trait but make it “sexy”, have this be directed at a female protagonist and it’s readers would be in arms, but since it’s gay so who cares. It’s such a deeply warped mindset and it the dominating opinion so any dissent is “wrong”. This plot doesn’t make sense.
So I peeked into some korean spoiler comments. Spoiler :
It said, they kept sleeping together (being fuck buddy). I was like (???) Seriously? Isn't this guy so homophobic he even deliberately tarnished uke name because he didn't like him because he is gay.
Ok btw, they became fuck buddy. Uke got so confused with seme. So uke confessed his feelings, and seme, ugh no. I don't like you. Let's stop sleeping with each other.
Uke then heart broken, start new relationship with someone else. Then seme was like, uh oh no I got jealous. I like uke tho. Please come back. Wtf
This is literally my point. It’s so badly written. If you want smut and I love smut then go all in make it as ridiculous as you want with the simple task of a barely there plot. But not this wishy washy nonsense of I want my cake and eat it too of “ this is such a good plot because the drawing is nice” not an actually well conceived narrative. The BL “Can’t think Straight” is highly popular on here and has a similar enemies to lovers one gay one homophobe dynamic and it’s done in a way while not remotely realistic, the uke of the plot genuinely says fuck off at least and isn’t the one to confess because what makes sense of the victim of homophobic harassment “falling in love” despite their treatment? It’s the wear them
down proximity as roommates, not great but you can make the reach. I like it but I don’t love the setup, here it’s glaringly obvious this setup doesn’t work to make any sense, they simply don’t have to interact with each other if they decide not to.