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Fist_of_Petals June 5, 2024 4:58 pm

The stiff fingers of odagiri (being a software engineer) is so cannon

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I'm literary so moved by the ending... Idk it just makes me go aww

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Fist_of_Petals June 7, 2024 9:00 pm

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Can I bother you to have a debate yap session about the difference of written vs drawn bl content?

Imma argue any position, I just wanna have this talk

    rii June 7, 2024 9:08 pm

    like novels vs manga/hwa/hua??

    Fist_of_Petals June 7, 2024 9:16 pm
    like novels vs manga/hwa/hua?? rii

    Yes; the usual pace, the world building in omegaverse, (let's not talk fantasy or sci-fi because it's literally a topic in and of itself and I can't verbalise my feelings about it very much), the popular tropes...etc Do people also feel like there are different meta emphasis and that are hard to clearly talk about ? (Like I could only think about the extremes: bestiality seems ok written rather than drawn. Pseudo-pedophilia seems ok drawn rather than written)

    verli June 7, 2024 10:01 pm

    as in tropes that appear in both? I'm more of a chinese novel reader for bl lol but one thing I've noticed is that I feel the tropes around the two seem to be correlated to cultural regions (i.e. china, korea).

    Chinese bl is obviously limited by censorship and in comparison, Korea isn't. Which is probably why we see so many more fwb and toxic cps in manhwa than manhua, cause Koreans can dish out the h0rny shit first without worry, before focusing on actual relationship development to help attract fans/make the plot interesting. Ngl, a lot of manhua is generally lackluster in panel framing, storytelling and sometimes even artstyle when compared to manga or manhwa and idk about you, but even without region specific names, I can sus out manhua from manhwa pretty well.

    Back on topic, the reason I bring this up is because even though I consider manhua the worst out of the three, I still consume it for
    a) the exceptions,
    b) the plot (which I can just barely understand), and or
    c) the fact that chinese novels are overall better-written than jap and kor.

    Maybe it's a cultural/personal preference, but Korean/Jap light novels have a tendency to use first person, and while that's not a problem in itself, it results in a tendency for authors to use internal-monologue excessively. This translates fine into manga/manhwa, however, getting told the character feels something in a novel has less of a narrative impact than describing the character's surroundings.

    Turning kr novels into manhwa is a big positive because of this, as when adapting, the artist is free to ultilise their own imagination to create their own landscapes, surroundings and imagery within their capabilities (it helps that the artists literally are top-tier). Like just do a chapter by chapter comparison of a scene and sometimes what adds life to a scene in a manhwa is a little interaction/action that was not included in the novel.

    I think manhua falls behind on this because internal thoughts of a character in chinese novels are typically indirect (i.e. not explicitly written like in ' ') and artists struggle with trying to translate that into drawings without making it OOC and awkward. Manhua has a tendency to miss a lot of content and context from the source material which really affects the flow of the story and leaves the reader confused cause they don't understand what's going on.

    Obviously, this is just me talking generally. There are many exceptions like (while not a bl), ORV novel made me feel so many e m o t i o n s despite being predominantly internal yapping. I also don't read a lot of Korean BL cause scummy MLs don't really interest me and the market is saturated with that.

    verli June 7, 2024 10:15 pm
    Yes; the usual pace, the world building in omegaverse, (let's not talk fantasy or sci-fi because it's literally a topic in and of itself and I can't verbalise my feelings about it very much), the popular tropes... Fist_of_Petals

    For the examples you mentioned, it's probably because no one actually wants to draw/see a beast and human fucking without bleaching your eyes XD.
    For the psuedo-p, I'm guessing you mean around the high-school x working class adult age range and I think it's because when written, it's harder to hide its problematic nature as you have to explicitly write out 'high-school' and other obviously young connotations. In drawn form, you can disguise it by drawing the character to look slightly older and make less explicit flags of the age gap. Eg. From [He arrived at the gates of his high-school. "I'll pick you up after class."] to [Adult figure showing up in front of gates of a generic looking white building: "I'll pick you up after class."]

Fist_of_Petals May 27, 2024 6:19 pm

Anyone here also into office workers in manga? (Surprisingly I hate manhwa and y'all are gonna chew me for it☠)

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